New “How-to” adult title
ThornDaddy has as new book on the site, and it’s not for the youngin’s. So this is our way of saying: If you’re not a grown up, or if where you live has an issue with you seeing things that you can’t get on basic cable, then you probably don’t want to expand this post and learn about the book. But if you are… have fun!
HOW TO FUCK A WOMAN’S BRAINS OUT
by Thorn Daddy
ThornDaddy from the “Submission and Coffee” podcast teaches you how to pet her pretties, part her petals, and nail her to the center of the earth with your cock until she squirts stars and secrets onto the majesty of your bed.
HOW TO FUCK A WOMAN’S BRAINS OUT is NOT a guide on how to “Find em’ feel em’ fuck em’ and forget ‘em.” It’s NOT a manual on how to “bag weak women with pickup lines and mind tricks.”
HOW TO FUCK A WOMAN’S BRAINS OUT is a stunning BDSM resource and manifesto on finding the perfect willing sex slave (or two), keeping her in your life, and loving the hell out of her - mind, body and soul.
A crucial read for all men, and women, interested in kinky love. Cover art by Amy-Rose.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:30 am
I really wish you didn’t choose carry titles that are this graphic. I’m no prude, but is it really necessary to publish porn? My respect for Podiobooks just went down about 10 notches and I will not feel comfortable recommending it as I OFTEN do anymore.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:59 am
One of the problems with being an open resource is that you have to protect the speech of those with whom you don’t agree.
I can *wish* that ThornDaddy had used any number of other titles, because of the negative attention this single title will generate, not for the content or even the cover art, mind. Just the title.
As for recommending the site, I don’t know if it’ll change for me. I know a lot of people who are sensitive about appearances will have problems, and some number of people who’ll tar all of us with the same brush will get turned off. But thinking about the people to whom I have recommended podiobooks over the last two years or so, I dont know that any of them are going to care.
For the most part, the content is pretty well siloed. Anybody who looks under erotica shouldn’t be too shocked by what they find, and I see that the update process hasn’t resulted in the f-bomb hitting the front page yet. When it gains the normal following for a new title and pops to the top ten for the day, that’ll be unfortunate for a few days, but typically it doesn’t last long.
The larger question — which really isn’t about this title at all — has to do with “who gets to censor?” Do we WANT an editorial review board at Podiobooks? Do we want somebody or somebodies who have to approve what voices get heard?
As much as I don’t like ThornDaddy’s choice of title, as much as I think it weakens and cheapens his message, as much as I’m not happy about having to tell people “yea, well … there’s no accounting for taste or lack thereof,” I do have to support the Podiobooks people for accepting the title as it was submitted.
I don’t have to like the title, but I do have to support the rationale and process that permits ThornDaddy to use it.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Thanks for the support, Nathan. We had to delay releasing this title for a bit until we could do some modifications to *keep* it from showing up on the front page.
Suzanne, I recognize your concern and fully expected reactions of this nature. But us releasing this book isn’t without precedent: you’ll find it for sale on Amazon.com and other merchants if you search for it. We took the same approach here.
This site is author-driven. We don’t solicit material for inclusion. Conversely, we don’t exclude titles just because someone may find them offensive. Having said that, we *have* rejected titles that contain hate speech. I see no reason in giving those vermin an additional platform to push their agenda, since their views are so far beyond the boundaries of normal human emotion and behavior. And no, I don’t lump books about consensual sex — however graphic in nature — in with those.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:34 am
I was about to submit a new podcast intended for 10-12 year olds.
I’m not submitting it yet.
I’ll see how this is handled by podiobooks powers-that-be, but they should be aware that there are other podbooks sites. The alternative sites have seemed less appealing so far, but the balance could tip…
Don’t confuse freedom of speech with the need for editorial oversight and trustworthy filtering. The brand of podiobooks risks serious damage here.
June 13th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Put clearly and simply, I do not understand why sex is a big deal in this day and age. But I can see that it IS a big deal everywhere I look. For instance: Bill Clinton was impeached because he had sex, (and used lawyer talk to try to get out of the ensuing heap of trouble it got him in). Everyone heard about that, worldwide. It was big news.
This past Monday, Representative Dennis Kucinich was on the Congressional floor presenting his resolution calling for Bush’s impeachment. (Video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv2SdTeN7dY
if you’d like proof). It’s a list of 35 charges, mostly Constitutional violations and Geneva Convention violations yet it DID NOT MAKE THE MAINSTREAM NEWS. At ALL.
Why not, and why was Clinton such big news? Why did the free press freely ignore the biggest news of the year this time, yet talk about nothing else back when Clinton’s neck was on the chopping block?
That’s easy: Clinton’s situation involved sex. That gets more negative attention than genocide, torture, election fraud and wiretapping, which is what Bush is being accused of in Congress.
There’s nothing evil and nothing negative in my book, and the entire project was done with love, and with the help of several women. The forward is written by a woman (my wife), the proofreading and editing was done by a woman, and there are interviews with seven women in the appendix. The cover art was done by a woman (not as porn, she drew it as a figure study in a college art class, and she was overjoyed when I bought the rights to the image, it was her first art sale ever.)
And I chose the title to get attention for the book, yes. But this is not a book on “how to pick up chicks”. It’s not erotica and it’s not pornographic. The library category for this book is “men’s health”, and that’s accurate. It’s basically “How to find the woman of your dreams, marry her, and make her ecstaticly happy every day of the rest of both of your lives.”
There’s a lot of love poured into these pages, and into my recordings of them.
Sex isn’t shocking, at least it shouldn’t be. I hate to say “get out of the 19th century”, so I won’t, but let’s put this title (and its title) in context of the current century before condemning anyone for writing, promoting or enjoying it.
ThornDaddy
June 13th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
I respect your right to use the title and I’ll defend that right. Next time it might be MY title. I don’t have to agree with it and I don’t have to like it.
For the record, my objection to the book is not the content.
It’s the f-bomb in the title.
I understand that for many people, that’s not a problem. I understand that it’s not regulated in this space. Just looking at the chapter summaries it looks like a very interesting book and I’m sure there are people who will find it informative and entertaining.
But, as an author, my opinion is that putting that title on it makes it LOOK like a cheap play for attention because it’s got a swear word in the title and not just *any* swear word .. the BIG one.
I will give you credit, tho. Using that title means this book has already gotten more attention than the work would have gotten had you used something like “Part the Petals and Pet the Pretty.”
Congratulations.
June 13th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
“I will give you credit, tho. Using that title means this book has already gotten more attention than the work would have gotten had you used something like ‘Part the Petals and Pet the Pretty’.”
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Well, yeah.
My wife’s book is called “Diary of an S&M Romance”, and the cover is pretty, kinda feminine, has a pink background, pastel colors, and the cover is fairly PG. That book has been out for two years, sold lots of printed copies, had a lot of downloads here on Podiobooks yet has received NO negative publicity. My Podiobook has been live a few hours and people are worried.
“Diary of an S&M Romance” is every bit as sexual as my book, and actually more explicit in places.
I guess one CAN “judge” a book by its cover. lol….
And why is the word “Fuck” a “forbidden word”? Because someone decided it was, a long time ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity#Western_history
All languages have forbidden words and phrases. The words vary, but they are always something to do with sex, excrement, God, or someone’s mother. Everywhere. And the words only have power because everyone agrees to fear them, and people do this because they are told and taught to fear them.
I say it’s time to defuse the false power of isolated words.
Two little ironies: In Bill Clinton’s impeachment hearing, descriptions of his sex life, in very graphic detail, were entered into congressional record, then posted on the internet by the government, on a site with no age warning.
And in the current obscenity trial of pornographer Max Hardcore, after his films were shown by the prosecutor to the jury in court (with one juror begging the court to stop making her watch them), Max remarked that it was the first time anyone had ever been **forced** to view his work.
ThornDaddy
June 13th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
I managed to listen to the first five minutes of this title before the repetitive and self-congratulatory tone overflowed my capacity for “wait and see” and I shut it off. I’m just not interested, but that probably has more to do with my personal situation (probably as diametrically opposite the author’s as can be imagined) than anything else.
That being said, I personally defend the author’s right to choose the title (no matter how ill-considered) and the distributor’s right to choose exactly when and how to distribute the book, with that title as one of the considerations involved. If it’s a mistake, it’ll come out in time, and everyone involved will learn from the experience.
It’s important to note that podiobooks.com is a distributor, not a publisher. They do not do any of the functions of a publisher.
I’ll be watching this title… from a distance. In the meantime, I’ll be working to provide alternatives to this title that I hope will be slightly less prone to controversy.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
FUCK right my drawing isn’t porn (OMG I used the BIG one!!!! I dropped the F bomb!!!! Well, while I’m at it, I must tell everyone how much of a CUNT I am (that’s right. I went there.)) and neither is Thorndaddy’s book - I’ve read it. It’s self help. It exists to enable people to have a better quality of life. And given that this book is strictly for adults, he assumes that adults can handle a little “fuck” every now and then - or often
(forgive the pun)
If you don’t feel comfortable reading the TITLE, then obviously this book isn’t for you. If you don’t feel comfortable reading the title, I would rather not think about how awkward sex is for you.
I look forward to hearing Thorndaddy and Dollie’s voices on the podiobook!
June 13th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
I also will defend the Podiobooks team for putting this up. Seriously people, if you don’t like it, don’t listen. It isn’t Podiobooks place to tell us what we can’t listen to. I would have less respect for the team if they hadn’t put it up. I don’t like the idea of the content and I won’t check it out, but if it isn’t illegal or promoting illegal activities… DON’T WORRY ABOUT IT AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE! There are other things in the world that is worse than a book about sex with the word fuck in the title that need more attention.
Now one thing I would suggest to the team, if they don’t have it in place already, is to add an age check of some sort to these explicit books. We all know the unwatched kids will find a way around it anyway, but at least it will give pause to the parents as they watch their kids on the internet.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
I love this book, I own a hard copy, and plan to download the podiobook. The word fuck will not hurt you, I promise. What would you suggest? How to Fornicate/bonk/boink/Frick/FiretrUCK/insert word of your choice a Woman’s Brains Out? Sounds silly to me.
Give the book a listen, or don’t…. but don’t worry, nothing in it will hurt you or cause the world to stop turning.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
I’m not asking for censorship of the author’s content. Just discretion of display.
We can have a big tent. But we invite children into this tent. In all carnivals, the bawdy stuff is in a separate sideshow.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
I am pleased that this book was accepted by podiobooks. The seemingly juvenile nature of the title detracts somewhat from the actually quite serious and mature stance the book takes on it’s subject matter. But that is not at issue, this book is not porn, it is not filth, in fact nothing about it’s content is objectionable for those who wish to download it. It is a self help book for men who wish to make their wives/lovers extremely happy and improve their relationships.
While it is true that this site is home to literature aimed at many age groups, not all of them of an appropriate age (or maturity level as age has only so much to do with it) for this book, or it’s title. It is also true that this site should not have the ability not to include this book based on it’s nature. I am pleased to see that for the most part response to this title has been mature and calm, and would urge the staff of podiobooks not to give into any objections to this title, or god forbid, demands that they more harshly sensor their material. The internet is a free space, lets keep it that way, and learn to integrate our various views more soundly. If you object to the nature of this book, avoid it, do not attack it.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Okay its been 44years since Lenny Bruce’s obscenity trial and over 4years since his conviction was posthumously pardoned. Can we get over the profanity thing already. It seems to me that the title is not only a promotional tactic but also a satirical take on the numerous books out there that purport to instruct how to pick up women or how women can bag a husband. And as far as being worried what 10 to 12 year olds might be exposed to, if a parent is allowing them to surf this and other sites unsupervised they deserve to have their children traumatized. It is the parents’ responsibility to police their child’s media consumption not the rest of the world’s.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
As long as the title doesn’t get highlighted on the front page in a non-redacted form, I’m all for it. I have three children, between 9 and 15, and while I cuss like a soldier and my wife cusses like a sailor (since we actually WERE each), we obviously don’t have a problem with the language.
That being said, if *I* come out with the language in front of them, it’s one thing, but I’d be irritated (not upset, just irritated) to have it right out in the open without any sort of “screen” in place. It’s a common courtesy thing.
I applaud the Podiobooks.com team for being willing to distribute this and the other adult titles that they have. After all, “The Internet is really, really great! (For porn!)”. Bravo, folks!
June 18th, 2008 at 10:15 am
I applaud Podiobooks for this book being on thier site, while the title is a a bit shocking, the satirical value of it is not lost on the adults who, in order to find this book, would HAVE to look in the erotica section. (i know i tried looking in each section and could only find it in there and when veiwing All books) The content is not degrading to women as, unfortunately, the title does suggest it would be, and when coupled with Dollies book is actually a glimpse in to what it is that makes this couples marriage so sweet, tender and loving. The specifics might not be applicable to everyone but the general IS. Love each other and give your lover what they need.
In response to the concern “Children might see this!” (pleae try to image a 40something clasping her beaded handbag close to her chest screaching this in abject horror) firstly if your children are under 13
a) they should not be using the internet unsupervised
and b) There is a whole lot worse they could find than Thorndaddy talking about his respect for women and desire to give them what they need.
secondly if your children are over 13 they already know the word “Fuck”, they probably use it with thier friends when you’re not around , they’ve heard it the films they watch and in the computer games you let them play. Get over it, if the book was called “How to turn a Women into a Cum Guzzling Whore” even i’d have a problem with that.
Thank you Thorndaddy and Dollie - i’m getting started on Plump Buffet
June 18th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
WIN A SIGNED COPY OF THE BOOK!
We’re giving away two signed copies of the printed book.
(contest directions are in new SUBMISSION AND COFFEE episode, 158. No purchase required. Must be of legal age.)
http://www.askdollie.com
July 9th, 2008 at 1:19 am
I am sick to death of the PG-ization of modern culture.
People have to grow up and take responsibility than in this world there are places with content that, while legal, is not suitable for minors and the easily offended.
If you know you won’t like adult content don’t click on a link that is specifically labeled as such. And if you insist on being curious don’t blame someone else when your whiskers get singed.
I am an adult and when the children are safely tucked up in bed I like to enjoy a little adult or explicit content.
On the other hand I do enjoy sharing other aspects of entertainment with my children.
But finding an interesting midpoint between The Tudors and Cartoon Network seems to be becoming more impossible with everyday that passes.
PG-ization has led to MTV-style romance-o-porn infiltrating just about every program on TV which my children find as off putting as I do.
I prefer good labeling to censorship and an acknowledgment that while bare tits and sex are interesting of themselves not every subject is improved by the addition of them.
July 12th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Esther….That’s a brilliant point.
Will read and discuss on our podcast (Submission and Coffee, episode 162). Thank you.
MWD
July 21st, 2008 at 9:47 am
As a father of two, I’m getting really tired of the “We must protect the kids!”, politically correct approach to sanitizing both art and society in general. Instead of hiding every reference to sex out of fear of exposure, why not try getting to know your children well enough that you can openly discuss issues of sexuality and gender respect with them? My wife and I have read a sampling of ThornDaddy’s other posted work, and neither of us have ever interpreted his attitude towards women as being remotely negative. We’ve never had even an ounce of interest in Domme/sub experimentation, but we can certainly respect (and be entertained by) some of the less ‘vanilla’ sexual choices that others make. As far as the actual title of the book goes, who gives a shit if there’s a ‘naughty’ word in it? My wife and the bulk of her friends are all professional, confident women and they highly approve of getting their brains fucked out on a regular basis. Sex might resemble the cover of a romance novel for some(bodices being ripped off by suave men on stallions), but for most of us it’s a little more direct and in your face. Thanks, ThornDaddy.