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	<title>Comments on: New and Improved Charts &#8211; Now With More Listener Ratings!</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Penney</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/comment-page-1/#comment-19068</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Penney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Evo,

The number was arbitrary, but it&#039;s a system I&#039;ve seen work well elsewhere (sometimes with a too new to rank list).

I didn&#039;t mean to suggest (and looking at it I&#039;m sorry I worded it how I did) that you require people to finish something to rate it (especially since you &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; change your ranking).  Maybe it would be possible to update the file telling you that you got to the end of a book reminding you to update your ranking.  Anyway, I was just throwing it out there for discussion.  I wouldn&#039;t mind something noting which books are complete in the ranking list (maybe just an icon or something).

Anyway, thanks for adding charts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Evo,</p>
<p>The number was arbitrary, but it&#8217;s a system I&#8217;ve seen work well elsewhere (sometimes with a too new to rank list).</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to suggest (and looking at it I&#8217;m sorry I worded it how I did) that you require people to finish something to rate it (especially since you <i>can</i> change your ranking).  Maybe it would be possible to update the file telling you that you got to the end of a book reminding you to update your ranking.  Anyway, I was just throwing it out there for discussion.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind something noting which books are complete in the ranking list (maybe just an icon or something).</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for adding charts!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be possible to ask listeners to rate a book when they hit &quot;cancel subscription&quot;?  The listener would be able to give a star rating for the book, enter a comment, or skip the rating altogether.

I think that would encourage more people to rate the books at the time that they decided they heard enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be possible to ask listeners to rate a book when they hit &#8220;cancel subscription&#8221;?  The listener would be able to give a star rating for the book, enter a comment, or skip the rating altogether.</p>
<p>I think that would encourage more people to rate the books at the time that they decided they heard enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Evo</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/comment-page-1/#comment-19009</link>
		<dc:creator>Evo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP,

Both are valid concerns:

&lt;i&gt;What about not listing a book until it has at least X people have ranked it (say 20)?&lt;/i&gt;

Any number you pick is arbitrary and delays books from getting listed. And the fact is that we just don&#039;t have that many people rating books right now. Plus, this gives some great exposure to new books and back titles. If it&#039;s worth of the rating, it&#039;ll stay as more folks rate. If not...

&lt;i&gt;I think it’s a little strange to rate a book that’s in progress… Can you change your ratings once you finish the book?&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t find it strange at all, and you can always change your opinion at any time and re-rate the book. It doesn&#039;t double count. While I agree that you may not be able to accurately rate a book in a single chapter, the fact remains that many people do make up their minds about a book in the first few paragraphs. And I&#039;m thinking of the inverse of your example. If we required everyone to listen to (or at least download) every chapter of a book before rating, how many negative reviews would we see? I&#039;m not trying to capture negative reviews, but requiring someone to listen to the whole thing sure seems like you&#039;re sample size of ratings would be positive, as those who bailed early for whatever reason can&#039;t submit their opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP,</p>
<p>Both are valid concerns:</p>
<p><i>What about not listing a book until it has at least X people have ranked it (say 20)?</i></p>
<p>Any number you pick is arbitrary and delays books from getting listed. And the fact is that we just don&#8217;t have that many people rating books right now. Plus, this gives some great exposure to new books and back titles. If it&#8217;s worth of the rating, it&#8217;ll stay as more folks rate. If not&#8230;</p>
<p><i>I think it’s a little strange to rate a book that’s in progress… Can you change your ratings once you finish the book?</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t find it strange at all, and you can always change your opinion at any time and re-rate the book. It doesn&#8217;t double count. While I agree that you may not be able to accurately rate a book in a single chapter, the fact remains that many people do make up their minds about a book in the first few paragraphs. And I&#8217;m thinking of the inverse of your example. If we required everyone to listen to (or at least download) every chapter of a book before rating, how many negative reviews would we see? I&#8217;m not trying to capture negative reviews, but requiring someone to listen to the whole thing sure seems like you&#8217;re sample size of ratings would be positive, as those who bailed early for whatever reason can&#8217;t submit their opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Penney</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/comment-page-1/#comment-19007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Penney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about not listing a book until it has at least X people have ranked it (say 20)?  

I think it&#039;s a little strange to rate a book that&#039;s in progress...  Can you change your ratings once you finish the book?  If I&#039;m trying to use the ratings to find something good I can&#039;t really trust them.  What if something started great (and everyone ranked it as such) but turned out not great at all by the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about not listing a book until it has at least X people have ranked it (say 20)?  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a little strange to rate a book that&#8217;s in progress&#8230;  Can you change your ratings once you finish the book?  If I&#8217;m trying to use the ratings to find something good I can&#8217;t really trust them.  What if something started great (and everyone ranked it as such) but turned out not great at all by the end.</p>
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