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	<title>Comments on: New and Improved Charts - Now With More Listener Ratings!</title>
	<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/</link>
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		<title>By: Jason Penney</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/#comment-19068</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Penney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/#comment-19068</guid>
		<description>Hey Evo,

The number was arbitrary, but it's a system I've seen work well elsewhere (sometimes with a too new to rank list).

I didn't mean to suggest (and looking at it I'm sorry I worded it how I did) that you require people to finish something to rate it (especially since you &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; change your ranking).  Maybe it would be possible to update the file telling you that you got to the end of a book reminding you to update your ranking.  Anyway, I was just throwing it out there for discussion.  I wouldn't mind something noting which books are complete in the ranking list (maybe just an icon or something).

Anyway, thanks for adding charts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Evo,</p>
<p>The number was arbitrary, but it&#8217;s a system I&#8217;ve seen work well elsewhere (sometimes with a too new to rank list).</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to suggest (and looking at it I&#8217;m sorry I worded it how I did) that you require people to finish something to rate it (especially since you <i>can</i> change your ranking).  Maybe it would be possible to update the file telling you that you got to the end of a book reminding you to update your ranking.  Anyway, I was just throwing it out there for discussion.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind something noting which books are complete in the ranking list (maybe just an icon or something).</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for adding charts!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/#comment-19036</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/#comment-19036</guid>
		<description>Would it be possible to ask listeners to rate a book when they hit "cancel subscription"?  The listener would be able to give a star rating for the book, enter a comment, or skip the rating altogether.

I think that would encourage more people to rate the books at the time that they decided they heard enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be possible to ask listeners to rate a book when they hit &#8220;cancel subscription&#8221;?  The listener would be able to give a star rating for the book, enter a comment, or skip the rating altogether.</p>
<p>I think that would encourage more people to rate the books at the time that they decided they heard enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Evo</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/#comment-19009</link>
		<dc:creator>Evo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/#comment-19009</guid>
		<description>JP,

Both are valid concerns:

&lt;i&gt;What about not listing a book until it has at least X people have ranked it (say 20)?&lt;/i&gt;

Any number you pick is arbitrary and delays books from getting listed. And the fact is that we just don't have that many people rating books right now. Plus, this gives some great exposure to new books and back titles. If it's worth of the rating, it'll stay as more folks rate. If not...

&lt;i&gt;I think it’s a little strange to rate a book that’s in progress… Can you change your ratings once you finish the book?&lt;/i&gt;

I don't find it strange at all, and you can always change your opinion at any time and re-rate the book. It doesn't double count. While I agree that you may not be able to accurately rate a book in a single chapter, the fact remains that many people do make up their minds about a book in the first few paragraphs. And I'm thinking of the inverse of your example. If we required everyone to listen to (or at least download) every chapter of a book before rating, how many negative reviews would we see? I'm not trying to capture negative reviews, but requiring someone to listen to the whole thing sure seems like you're sample size of ratings would be positive, as those who bailed early for whatever reason can't submit their opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP,</p>
<p>Both are valid concerns:</p>
<p><i>What about not listing a book until it has at least X people have ranked it (say 20)?</i></p>
<p>Any number you pick is arbitrary and delays books from getting listed. And the fact is that we just don&#8217;t have that many people rating books right now. Plus, this gives some great exposure to new books and back titles. If it&#8217;s worth of the rating, it&#8217;ll stay as more folks rate. If not&#8230;</p>
<p><i>I think it’s a little strange to rate a book that’s in progress… Can you change your ratings once you finish the book?</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t find it strange at all, and you can always change your opinion at any time and re-rate the book. It doesn&#8217;t double count. While I agree that you may not be able to accurately rate a book in a single chapter, the fact remains that many people do make up their minds about a book in the first few paragraphs. And I&#8217;m thinking of the inverse of your example. If we required everyone to listen to (or at least download) every chapter of a book before rating, how many negative reviews would we see? I&#8217;m not trying to capture negative reviews, but requiring someone to listen to the whole thing sure seems like you&#8217;re sample size of ratings would be positive, as those who bailed early for whatever reason can&#8217;t submit their opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Penney</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/#comment-19007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Penney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/02/22/new-and-improved-charts-now-with-more-listner-ratings/#comment-19007</guid>
		<description>What about not listing a book until it has at least X people have ranked it (say 20)?  

I think it's a little strange to rate a book that's in progress...  Can you change your ratings once you finish the book?  If I'm trying to use the ratings to find something good I can't really trust them.  What if something started great (and everyone ranked it as such) but turned out not great at all by the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about not listing a book until it has at least X people have ranked it (say 20)?  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a little strange to rate a book that&#8217;s in progress&#8230;  Can you change your ratings once you finish the book?  If I&#8217;m trying to use the ratings to find something good I can&#8217;t really trust them.  What if something started great (and everyone ranked it as such) but turned out not great at all by the end.</p>
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