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	<title>Comments on: Adapting creative commons books into podiobooks</title>
	<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/</link>
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		<title>By: Evo</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-4481</link>
		<dc:creator>Evo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-4481</guid>
		<description>A few comments to Oberonix's post:

* Authors have the option to decline any ads in their books, and all authors were made aware of the Argosy opportunity.

* Donations and small amounts of money when ads are dropped in may not constitute a "commercial" use. Lots of discussion about that going on right now in the podosphere.

* The "branding" of Podiobooks.com at the front and back of the book aren't optional if we're hosting the files. If that's a problem, then host the files yourself. We do that with a few books right now. Not an issue, but if we're providing hosting and bandwidth, I don't think it's too much to ask that we brand ourselves up front and remind folks to donate at the end.

E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few comments to Oberonix&#8217;s post:</p>
<p>* Authors have the option to decline any ads in their books, and all authors were made aware of the Argosy opportunity.</p>
<p>* Donations and small amounts of money when ads are dropped in may not constitute a &#8220;commercial&#8221; use. Lots of discussion about that going on right now in the podosphere.</p>
<p>* The &#8220;branding&#8221; of Podiobooks.com at the front and back of the book aren&#8217;t optional if we&#8217;re hosting the files. If that&#8217;s a problem, then host the files yourself. We do that with a few books right now. Not an issue, but if we&#8217;re providing hosting and bandwidth, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too much to ask that we brand ourselves up front and remind folks to donate at the end.</p>
<p>E.</p>
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		<title>By: oberonix</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-4033</link>
		<dc:creator>oberonix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-4033</guid>
		<description>I have a book that I will be podcasting written by another author and was released under a Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 license.  I got explicit permission from the publishers to podcast it, their only stipulation is that it could not be used commercially in any way.  I will be putting it on a feed of my own, but would ideally like to put it up on podiobooks if possible.  The disabling of donating would be great for this, but I am more worried about potential advertising / promo stuff being slipped into the podiobook.  I remember a while back the Argosy U stuff appeared out of nowhere and as podiobooks has evolved there have been longer/more promo's done by mr. McLean at the end and start of the podiobooks.  

I think the podiobook promo's would be ok with the publisher, but the advertising would definitely not be.  I think the books by this author are perfect horror novels and need to be podcast, which is hy I am doing it, but I just am worried about going the podiobooks route because of the licensing differences and the inserted audio.  

Let me know what you think,
-Oberonix</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a book that I will be podcasting written by another author and was released under a Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 license.  I got explicit permission from the publishers to podcast it, their only stipulation is that it could not be used commercially in any way.  I will be putting it on a feed of my own, but would ideally like to put it up on podiobooks if possible.  The disabling of donating would be great for this, but I am more worried about potential advertising / promo stuff being slipped into the podiobook.  I remember a while back the Argosy U stuff appeared out of nowhere and as podiobooks has evolved there have been longer/more promo&#8217;s done by mr. McLean at the end and start of the podiobooks.  </p>
<p>I think the podiobook promo&#8217;s would be ok with the publisher, but the advertising would definitely not be.  I think the books by this author are perfect horror novels and need to be podcast, which is hy I am doing it, but I just am worried about going the podiobooks route because of the licensing differences and the inserted audio.  </p>
<p>Let me know what you think,<br />
-Oberonix</p>
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		<title>By: Evo</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-4032</link>
		<dc:creator>Evo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-4032</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I'm posting this on behalf of Wes, who had difficulty with getting his post to stick. But is shows tremendous insight, and needs to be here.&lt;/i&gt;

I read with interest about adaptive created common books. I also  wondered if readers will donate money for public domain podiobooks.  But to *not* donate may mean the end or at least a drastic slowdown  of public domain podiobooks. That would be a shame..

Several commercial audiobook producers have sold or rentel  "classic' public domain material. Brillance Audio comes readily to  mind. I firmly believe podiobook producers should be able to adapt/ transcribe public domain texts to the podcast medium. This could be  done with enough production value to entice readers to donate and  hopefully listen to future audio productions of that podiocaster of  what is essentially public domain material. A fair amount of  creative effort will make all the difference.

In addition to the original textual material the podiobook producer  may wish to consider a preface, introducing the story, describe the  history of the story and its impact in the times when it was  published. Other info such as the author's biography, how the story  affected other writings, and any bits of trivia would enhance the  reading of the original material . In terms of audio production  things such as music, multi-voiced charactors, voice effects, sound  ques or sounds effects may add to the book, making a public domain  book into an audio production. Reading becomes a performance.  Listening becomes an experience.

There is a lot of public domain material out there that deserves to  be made into podiobooks. There are many large libraries throughout  the internet of public domain e-books and e-texts. My favorite  place of PD mateiral is www.blackmask.com. There are hundreds of  genre books and stories there beggings to be made into audio by a  human, not a computer voice. I would love to see someone put  together a series of podiobooks of pulp fiction anthologies with  introductory material thrown in. It looks like Doc Savage, The  Shadow, and even some Robert E. Howard storeis are in the public  domain. Readers' loyality in donating will ensure that many of  these volumes could eventually be made into audio format. Not only  mobile iPod users would benefit, but visually impaird readers, and  seniors who fondly remember the pulps.

To many people public domain e-text are free and, therefore of  little value. But with some addional introductory or afterword  material and some audio elements a podiobook producer can turn a PD  book into an audiobook experience. These books and storeis could  live for a new generation.

- Wes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&#8217;m posting this on behalf of Wes, who had difficulty with getting his post to stick. But is shows tremendous insight, and needs to be here.</i></p>
<p>I read with interest about adaptive created common books. I also  wondered if readers will donate money for public domain podiobooks.  But to *not* donate may mean the end or at least a drastic slowdown  of public domain podiobooks. That would be a shame..</p>
<p>Several commercial audiobook producers have sold or rentel  &#8220;classic&#8217; public domain material. Brillance Audio comes readily to  mind. I firmly believe podiobook producers should be able to adapt/ transcribe public domain texts to the podcast medium. This could be  done with enough production value to entice readers to donate and  hopefully listen to future audio productions of that podiocaster of  what is essentially public domain material. A fair amount of  creative effort will make all the difference.</p>
<p>In addition to the original textual material the podiobook producer  may wish to consider a preface, introducing the story, describe the  history of the story and its impact in the times when it was  published. Other info such as the author&#8217;s biography, how the story  affected other writings, and any bits of trivia would enhance the  reading of the original material . In terms of audio production  things such as music, multi-voiced charactors, voice effects, sound  ques or sounds effects may add to the book, making a public domain  book into an audio production. Reading becomes a performance.  Listening becomes an experience.</p>
<p>There is a lot of public domain material out there that deserves to  be made into podiobooks. There are many large libraries throughout  the internet of public domain e-books and e-texts. My favorite  place of PD mateiral is <a href="http://www.blackmask.com." rel="nofollow">www.blackmask.com.</a> There are hundreds of  genre books and stories there beggings to be made into audio by a  human, not a computer voice. I would love to see someone put  together a series of podiobooks of pulp fiction anthologies with  introductory material thrown in. It looks like Doc Savage, The  Shadow, and even some Robert E. Howard storeis are in the public  domain. Readers&#8217; loyality in donating will ensure that many of  these volumes could eventually be made into audio format. Not only  mobile iPod users would benefit, but visually impaird readers, and  seniors who fondly remember the pulps.</p>
<p>To many people public domain e-text are free and, therefore of  little value. But with some addional introductory or afterword  material and some audio elements a podiobook producer can turn a PD  book into an audiobook experience. These books and storeis could  live for a new generation.</p>
<p>- Wes</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-3866</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-3866</guid>
		<description>Thanks for pointing this out.  I went to the site and will be reading for 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing this out.  I went to the site and will be reading for 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.</p>
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		<title>By: hugh brackett</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-3841</link>
		<dc:creator>hugh brackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-3841</guid>
		<description>People's opinions vary as to what constitutes commercial use. In the end the only interpretation that matters is that of the copyright owner of the work in question. Someone could take the position that because you are a for-profit company and you take donations somewhere on the site, your use is commercial. If they send you a takedown notice, you'll take it down because you have better things to do with your resources than fight with copyright owners, and such a fight is the antithesis of the relationship you want with authors.

If someone's interested in making a podiobook of Blood, Sweat &#38; Tea; or any other NC-licensed book, there's nothing to loose in contacting the publisher, explaining how podiobooks.com works, and opening a dialog. Once they see what podiobooks have done for the print sales of authors like Scott Sigler, they should be more than willing to work with you-- Donations and all. 

I nominate A. F. Harrold for the recording on Blood, Sweat &#38; Tea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People&#8217;s opinions vary as to what constitutes commercial use. In the end the only interpretation that matters is that of the copyright owner of the work in question. Someone could take the position that because you are a for-profit company and you take donations somewhere on the site, your use is commercial. If they send you a takedown notice, you&#8217;ll take it down because you have better things to do with your resources than fight with copyright owners, and such a fight is the antithesis of the relationship you want with authors.</p>
<p>If someone&#8217;s interested in making a podiobook of Blood, Sweat &amp; Tea; or any other NC-licensed book, there&#8217;s nothing to loose in contacting the publisher, explaining how podiobooks.com works, and opening a dialog. Once they see what podiobooks have done for the print sales of authors like Scott Sigler, they should be more than willing to work with you&#8211; Donations and all. </p>
<p>I nominate A. F. Harrold for the recording on Blood, Sweat &amp; Tea</p>
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		<title>By: Kaylea Hascall</title>
		<link>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-3840</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaylea Hascall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2006/08/21/adapting-creative-commons-books-into-podiobooks/#comment-3840</guid>
		<description>Sounds like a great idea to me. After seeing a few Librivox books hosted here, I had been wondering what role public domain readings might play over time. I wonder, will very many people donate money to support such an effort?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a great idea to me. After seeing a few Librivox books hosted here, I had been wondering what role public domain readings might play over time. I wonder, will very many people donate money to support such an effort?</p>
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